Meeting for 26 September 2011

Agenda

1. GUADEC 2012

How are things going for the local A Coruña team?
How can this committee help the local team now?
Email list and IRC organization
1. Is the approach discussed at the link at the bottom the best way to organize things for 2012?
2. Is the guadec-planning list alive? Who has control of that now, and how can we add people?
Website (http://guadec.org/)
1. Who has control of this now? Should that transfer to someone else?
2. How can we put something interesting and exciting there early?
Suggestions for potential sponsors; volunteer to create/update sponsorship brochure
Begin thinking about call for papers, press, publicity, promoting attendance

2. Next Meeting

Time: Some members would prefer to meet at 16:00 UTC.
Date: Two weeks from this meeting will be 10 October, which is during the Montreal GNOME Summit. If that will be a problem for people, we can meet the next week.

3. Desktop Summit

Informal feedback: we expect a report from the DS organizers, but if there was anything people attending the meeting thought went especially well or could have been improved, that would be interesting to know.
We need a volunteer to update the GUADEC planning pages with "lessons learned" from this informal feedback and the report.

4. Open Discussion

Anything else we might want to talk about.

Meeting Minutes

Attending

Bob Murphy (bobert_)
Brian Cameron (yippi_/yippi)
Chema Casanova (txenoo)
Christophe Fergeau (teuf)
Juan José Sánchez (juanjo)
Jośe Millán (fid_jose)

Summary

Chema reported on groups the local team is setting up to organize the conference
There was some discussion on finances, tax-free status, etc.
Chema also reported on possible dates, and there was soem discussion of the issues involved. The original proposed dates overlap with OSCon, and there are other logistical issues around use of university facilities, bank holidays, and end user engagement.
The local team has administration permissions for the guadec-local and guadec-list mailing lists. Chema will contact bkor about giving the local team control of the guadec-planning list, and the guadec.org web site.
There was quite a bit of discussion about sponsors, including some interesting ideas for attracting new sponsors and providing technical networking opportunities for them.
The next meeting witll be on 10 October at 16:00 UTC.

IRC Log

[07:04am] teuf: hey
[07:04am] juanjo: hello
[07:06am] bobert_: Hello all - let's go ahead and get started. Let's introduce ourselves, just for the record - I'm Bob Murphy
[07:06am] txenoo: I'm Chema Casanova, from the local team
[07:07am] juanjo: I'm Juan José Sánchez (juan, or juanjo), from the local team as well (and like chema, I work @ igalia)
[07:08am] bobert_: Perhaps only the three of us and teuf are paying attention
[07:08am] fid_jose: I'm Jośe Millán, from the local team
[07:09am] bobert_: Welcome, everybody. It sounds like the local team is making good progress on planning so far.
[07:09am] txenoo: We can give you a brief update of the current status
[07:09am] bobert_: Great!
[07:10am] txenoo: During this month we are defining the responsabilities of the local team and working in the identification of working areas.
[07:11am] txenoo: Last week we had a meeting were we defined the different groups that are going to work to organize the Conference
[07:12am] txenoo: This is the list we created after a complete brainstorming
[07:12am] txenoo: Accomodation:
[07:12am] txenoo: Transport:
[07:12am] txenoo: Registration:
[07:12am] txenoo: Logistics:
[07:12am] txenoo: Meals:
[07:12am] txenoo: Systems:
[07:12am] txenoo: Website:
[07:12am] txenoo: Communication and contents:
[07:12am] txenoo: Economical:
[07:12am] txenoo: Audiovisual:
[07:12am] txenoo: Social Program: Parties, sightseen, sports
[07:12am] txenoo: Conference Program:
[07:12am] txenoo: Design & Artwork:
[07:12am] txenoo: Infraestructure:
[07:12am] txenoo: Volunteers:
[07:12am] txenoo: General Coordination:
[07:13am] bobert_: That seems very complete.
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[07:14am] txenoo: Next step is assign two people for every area so each team will define their tasks and roadmap.
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[07:15am] yippi joined the chat room.
[07:15am] bobert_: Have you thought about finance, and sponsors?
[07:15am] txenoo: So at this moment we can say that we have already started working in the organization of next GUADEC
[07:15am] yippi: Yes
[07:16am] bobert_: Excellent!
[07:16am] yippi: The board finished the selection process obviously some time ago
[07:17am] txenoo: About finances we need to define with GNOME Foundation how are we going to manage the economical part
[07:17am] yippi: Right now we need the local team to get involved which is why we are having thus meeting, I believe
[07:18am] yippi: This depends somewhat on local law
[07:18am] teuf: don't we have the list of responsibilities from the previous years to check against?
[07:18am] yippi: Yes
[07:18am] txenoo: We have no problem to deal with the economical part bein managed by any of the different organizations behind the proposal as GPUL or GNOME HISPANO
[07:18am] yippi: Often the gnome foundation holds money since there is often tax advantage
[07:18am] txenoo: GNOME HISPANO has done that in 2006 at Vilanova
[07:19am] yippi: Doesn't gnome Hispano have it's own bank account?
[07:19am] txenoo: Yes it has
[07:19am] yippi: Is it an official tax free status?
[07:19am] txenoo: The same as GPUL
[07:20am] txenoo: there is no official tax free status, it depends in the activity that is beind done
[07:20am] yippi: Then it is easier to make arrangements for the local org to manage monies
[07:21am] yippi: If it is not tax free then thee may be advantage to have the foundation hold money
[07:21am] yippi: Beyond petty cash
[07:21am] txenoo: I don't think so
[07:21am] yippi: In turkey the guy who managed the event is still in court figuring out his taxes
[07:22am] txenoo: We have closes in GNOME Hispano the taxes for 2006 without any real problem.
[07:22am] txenoo: In 2006 we managed a budget of 100k€
[07:22am] yippi: Paperwork will need to be provided
[07:22am] yippi: But it can be arranged
[07:22am] txenoo: A consultancy is paid for doing this work
[07:23am] yippi: Sure, you will need to propose a plan to the board
[07:23am] yippi: With supporting docs
[07:23am] yippi: Gnome Hispano still hasn't signed the users group form
[07:24am] yippi: Which needs to be fixed
[07:24am] yippi: Also I think those guys registered the trademark in Spain
[07:24am] juanjo: actually if I am not wrong Chema and GNOME Hispano had already managed part of the money in Vilanova's GUADEC, right?
[07:24am] yippi: But the trademark isn't clearly owned by the non profit
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[07:25am] yippi: So we should fix these things too
[07:26am] yippi: Now that our ED is a lawyer we nay require more paperwork than at past events.
[07:26am] yippi: May I mean
[07:26am] yippi: I hope that is understandable
[07:27am] txenoo: yippi: i agree, but i think that it is out of the scope of this meeting So should be managed with the board of GNOME Hispano, i'm just the responsable of the accounts
[07:27am] yippi: Sure, but the local team should be engaged with gnome Hispano also
[07:27am] txenoo: So i just know about the accounts and how we deal with our responsibilities with the spanish goverment
[07:28am] yippi: If you plan to use their bank accruing especially
[07:28am] bobert_: I agree, that's a good discussion to hold separately - it could get quite detailed
[07:28am] yippi: Ok maybe they should be invited to the next meeting
[07:28am] yippi: Of course
[07:29am] txenoo: as i told the GNOME hispano accound is one option
[07:29am] bobert_: We may even want to schedule a separate meeting for that, or take it to a private email list
[07:29am] txenoo: and the other one is just manage it with GPUL account
[07:29am] yippi: Sure, just propose your plan to the board
[07:30am] yippi: Putting together that plan requires meeting with gnome Hispano somehow obviously
[07:30am] bobert_: It sounds like the local team has made a lot of progress around possible dates, too
[07:30am] txenoo: yippi: as i told you i'm the responsable of the gnome hispano accounts
[07:30am] juanjo: yippi, Chema is member of GNOME Hispano's board and he takes care of the accounts, so we are pretty much the same people
[07:30am] yippi: Nice to meet you.
[07:31am] juanjo: Chema = txenoo
[07:31am] yippi: Oh I see
[07:31am] txenoo: about trademarks and the agreement i just could forward that to the Board again
[07:31am] yippi: Sure
[07:31am] txenoo: the GNOME Hispano board in this case
[07:32am] yippi: We need their approval
[07:33am] yippi: When are the dates?
[07:33am] yippi: We want to do a press release
[07:33am] txenoo: ok, that's an interesting subject
[07:34am] txenoo: last week we have been analysing the different option of dates
[07:34am] yippi: Do we have an agenda?
[07:34am] yippi: Normally the leader of meetings prepares one
[07:34am] txenoo: bobert_: could you refresh the agenda ?
[07:35am] bobert_: Yes, I sent an agenda out a few days ago.
[07:35am] bobert_: 1. GUADEC 2012
[07:35am] bobert_: a. How are things going for the local A Coruña team?
[07:35am] bobert_: b. How can this committee help the local team now?
[07:35am] bobert_: c. Email list and IRC organization
[07:35am] bobert_: i. Is the approach discussed at the link at the bottom the best way to organize things for 2012?
[07:35am] bobert_: ii. Is the guadec-planning list alive? Who has control of that now, and how can we add people?
[07:35am] bobert_: d. Website (http://guadec.org/)
[07:35am] bobert_: i. Who has control of this now? Should that transfer to someone else?
[07:35am] bobert_: ii. How can we put something interesting and exciting there early?
[07:35am] bobert_: e. Suggestions for potential sponsors; volunteer to create/update sponsorship brochure
[07:35am] bobert_: f. Begin thinking about call for papers, press, publicity, promoting attendance
[07:35am] bobert_: 2. Next Meeting
[07:35am] bobert_: a. Time: Some members would prefer to meet at 16:00 UTC.
[07:35am] bobert_: b. Date: Two weeks from this meeting will be 10 October, which is during the Montreal GNOME Summit. If that will be a problem for people, we can meet the next week.
[07:35am] bobert_: 3. Desktop Summit
[07:35am] bobert_: a. Informal feedback: we expect a report from the DS organizers, but if there was anything people attending the meeting thought went especially well or could have been improved, that would be interesting to know.
[07:35am] bobert_: b. We need a volunteer to update the GUADEC planning pages with "lessons learned" from this informal feedback and the report.
[07:35am] bobert_: 4. Open Discussion
[07:35am] bobert_: Anything else we might want to talk about.
[07:35am] bobert_: We're still on item 1 a.
[07:35am] txenoo: we where at point 1.a)
[07:35am] yippi: It's better to kink the agenda as the chat topic
[07:36am] yippi: Link
[07:36am] bobert_: Good - I'll plan to do that for the next meeting.
[07:36am] yippi: Are we onto the next topic
[07:36am] yippi: Sounds like things are going good
[07:37am] bobert_: No, the financial issue was a digression, albeit an important one imo.
[07:37am] yippi: Ok
[07:37am] bobert_: txenoo, can you give us a quick rundown on the dates? I understand there are numerous practical issues to consider.
[07:38am] txenoo: I'm going to start giving the current contexts regarding the dates.
[07:39am] txenoo: In our proposal we proposed a conference starting Monday, 16th July 2012 and finishing 21st July 2012.
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[07:39am] yippi left the chat room. (Leaving)
[07:40am] yippi_: sorry, switched computers
[07:40am] txenoo: But there is an overlap with the dates of OSCON 2012
[07:41am] txenoo: This issue was brought up in a previous meeting with Desktop Summit organizers.
[07:41am] txenoo: So we decided to study the different options we have to propose alternatives.
[07:41am] bobert_: I agree, that's a problem - many US developers who might want to attend GUADEC would find that a problem
[07:42am] txenoo: The possible options we have is maintain the current dates (they were chosen to minimize possible the organization problems)
[07:42am] txenoo: Or delay the conference so it starts the 26th of July
[07:42am] yippi_: i don't think many would find it a problem, but some would.
[07:43am] yippi_: it would probably be a problem for journalists who attend
[07:43am] yippi_: while there is some ovelap between OSCON and GNOME, most GNOME developers from the US probably would come to GUADEC
[07:43am] yippi_: and we could compensate by getting european journalists more involved.
[07:43am] teuf: I'm under the impression that these days there will be an overlap with some conf whatever the date is
[07:44am] bobert_: Would it be possible to hold GUADEC before OSCON?
[07:44am] yippi_: guadec used to be in may
[07:44am] txenoo: Just starting the next monday would be a problem because the 25th of July is bank day
[07:44am] bobert_: I think you're right, teuf, which is one reason for us to set our dates early
[07:44am] txenoo: Starting earlier is not an option because the event is hold in a faculty
[07:44am] bobert_: Ah!
[07:45am] txenoo: And the term and exams will finish the 13th July
[07:45am] txenoo: After that date we will have complete availability of the building
[07:45am] yippi_: having the event start on a bank day could be a plus
[07:45am] yippi_: we could plan the 1st day to be more about getting users involved
[07:46am] yippi_: users might be more able to attend over a long weekend
[07:46am] txenoo: But the bank day is a Wednesday
[07:46am] yippi_: by the way, i do agree that we shouldn't have the BOF's at the end of the event
[07:46am] yippi_: i mean, we could make the bank holiday a day for users
[07:46am] yippi_: whatever day it is
[07:47am] txenoo: from our experience it depends with kind of users are you interested in attending
[07:48am] yippi_: The "U" in GUADEC stands for users, and we have always been bad at attracting them
[07:49am] yippi_: so, having a plan to attract any kind of users would be great. Though my suggestion of using a bank holiday in this way might not be the best way to attract them. I was just trying to highlight that we can figure out ways to workaround things like this, I'd think.
[07:50am] bobert_: It sounds like the local team has a good idea of the advantages and disadvantages for the different dates. What else do you need to make a final decision?
[07:50am] fid_jose: yippi_: the bank holiday is only in galicia, not in the rest of spain
[07:50am] fid_jose: yippi_: i don't think it's a good idea to start on the 25th
[07:52am] juanjo: bobert_, we sent an email to the board with the advantages and disadvantages of each option, so we would like to have feedback from the board before deciding. Also, in this email we asked them about the lenght and internal structure of the conference, as the three topics are very related
[07:53am] bobert_: Yes, I saw that email. Since you're waiting for that feedback, then, let's move ahead in the meeting agenda.
[07:54am] bobert_: Are there other things the global committee can help you with in the next month or two?
[07:54am] juanjo: our intention is to have a decision by the end of this week
[07:54am] txenoo: yippi_: we take care of the interest in involving more Users, but this will be part of the work in the conference program.
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[07:57am] txenoo: bobert_: we would need to define mixed teams
[07:57am] bobert_: We're coming up on 15:00 UTC. Can everyone stay a little over time?
[07:58am] txenoo: regarding the points of systems infraestructure and marketing, because the web is one of the points we need to collaborate with the GNOME Foundation.
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[07:58am] txenoo: We could use our own infrastructure but as you commented we should know how guadec.org has been working.
[07:59am] bobert_: Yes, I think that's important. I would love to see at least a banner web page with the dates soon.
[08:00am] bobert_: Good. It also sounds like we should talk with the board about using the other email lists, too.
[08:00am] bobert_: I'll send some email to the board about this and copy the local team on it.
[08:01am] txenoo: bobert_: i didn't receive any news from the administrator of guadec-planning
[08:01am] bobert_: Hmmm. Who is administrator?
[08:01am] txenoo: I suppose that someone from 2009 guadec organization team
[08:02am] txenoo: i've already sent him two emails and i didn't receive any answer
[08:02am] txenoo: i managed to get administration permissions for guadec-local and guadec-list
[08:03am] juanjo: could we maybe ask gnome sysadmins to reset the administrator for the guadec-planning mailing list?
[08:03am] bobert_: I was just thinking the same thing
[08:03am] teuf: he is the gnome sysadmin
[08:03am] teuf: (the administrator of guadec-planning)
[08:04am] teuf: bkor on IRC
[08:04am] txenoo: guadec-planning list run by olav at vitters.nl
[08:05am] txenoo: bobert_: i'll talk to bkor about this
[08:05am] bobert_: Okay, good. Maybe bkor can also help with being able to use the guadec.org web site.
[08:06am] yippi_: https://live.gnome.org/GuadecPlanningHowTo?highlight=%28CategoryGuadec%29
[08:07am] yippi_: i think we should make sure to include this useful link in future meeting agendas/minutes.
[08:07am] txenoo: When be get control of the list will reset the members list and include people involved in this year organization
[08:08am] bobert_: Yes, it's a very useful link. There's also a "lessons learned" page with info that could be merged into that page.
[08:08am] yippi_: Yes, please lets keep the wiki updated as we notice opportunities to improve it
[08:08am] yippi_: as we learn lessons, we should update the lessons learned page, for example
[08:09am] bobert_: Agreed. One of the items on the agenda (which I don't think we'll get to today) is to get informal feedback on the DS in advance of the official report from the organizers.
[08:10am] txenoo: I participated in a meeting with the organizers of DS
[08:11am] bobert_: How did that go?
[08:11am] txenoo: It was nice, some useful tips about regarding the program
[08:11am] txenoo: no conclusion when is better to start the conference (Saturday or Monday)
[08:12am] txenoo: that is good to have a Saturday night at least in the conference so international flights will be cheaper
[08:13am] txenoo: And that the badges were really nice this year
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[08:14am] bobert_: That sounds like useful information.
[08:14am] txenoo: They already remembered about several issues with taxes, but I had already deal with that in 2006 GUADEC.
[08:14am] bobert_: txenoo: would you mind adding that kind of info to the lessons learned page?
[08:14am] txenoo: And we raised the issue with the dates of OSCON
[08:15am] txenoo: They confirmed that they were going to send a report with that information so probably it would be good idea to wait for their report, and if they don't we'll do with current information.
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[08:15am] bobert_: Okay, good
[08:16am] txenoo: In any case i0ll note down to update this section, with or without that information
[08:17am] bobert_: The next item on the agenda is sponsorship. I think it would be a good idea to get started on that early.
[08:18am] bobert_: I think it would be best to put a sponsorship brochure together after we have the dates decided.
[08:18am] txenoo: I agree
[08:19am] txenoo: at this moment two of the local organizations involved GPUL and GHANDALF are preparing next year subsidies.
[08:19am] bobert_: That's great!
[08:20am] txenoo: both organizations are interested in include the GUADEC in the events that will be subsidized by the regional goverment.
[08:20am] bobert_: I've been looking over past conferences, and it seems most years, it's mostly the same sponsors. I think it would be good to contact companies that use GNOME technologies that haven't been sponsors in the past.
[08:21am] juanjo: bobert_, that would be awesome, and this is one of the places where I think the local team will need help
[08:22am] bobert_: That's an area where I think I can help, being near Silicon Valley and having a lot of friends in companies like that.
[08:23am] bobert_: I'm curious - what would people think of TiVo? I know they're kind of notorious from a few years back, but they are using a couple of GNOME components.
[08:24am] yippi_: a sponsorship brochure would be helpful.
[08:24am] yippi_: The GNOME Foundation can help with reaching out to traditional sponsors (Mozilla, Red Hat, Canonical, etc.)
[08:24am] yippi_: this might make it easier for the local team to focus more on local sponsors
[08:24am] bobert_: yippi_: I completely agree about the brochure - the brochure for the DS was terrific
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[08:25am] yippi_: for example, we can share your brochure at an upcoming GNOME Advisory Board meeting, and make sure the right people at each organization reviews it
[08:25am] yippi_: and considers it
[08:25am] yippi_: but we need the local organizers to provide the brochure
[08:25am] bobert_: Great! Would Oracle be interested, do you think?
[08:25am] yippi_: I do not know. I do not approve such things.
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[08:25am] yippi_: Oracle did not sponsor the last DS, but did sponsor GNOME Asia/GNOME 3 launch.
[08:26am] bobert_: If you could find a contact name, we could take it from there.
[08:26am] yippi_: I think Oracle and most distros like it when the conference clearly has some plans to do things that benefit them.
[08:26am] yippi_: For example, many distros really liked it that at GNOME Asia the organizers made a special meeting for distros to meet together and work out release engineering issues.
[08:27am] bobert_: Oh, wow! What a great idea!
[08:27am] yippi_: So, if we can make plans to do things to help distros to collaborate, then distros tend to be more excited about participating.
[08:27am] yippi_: perhaps we cuold plan some special events for sponsor collaboration.
[08:27am] bobert_: I think that's fantastic.
[08:27am] yippi_: and collaboration between the typical types of sponsors, such as distros
[08:28am] yippi_: if we highlight those in the brochure, then they like it
[08:28am] bobert_: Yes, and chip makers. We could get a lot of the folks making ARM CPUs in particular.
[08:28am] yippi_: it usually makes it easier to raise funds when we more clearly advertise the benefits to the sponsors
[08:28am] yippi_: sure, also sponsors tend to like access to people they care about.
[08:29am] yippi_: for example, arranging a special meeting or dinner so that chip makers can meet those people in the GNOME community who most closely work on their stuff, is often interesting to them.
[08:29am] yippi_: or distros
[08:29am] yippi_: this is the sort of thing you should be thinking about when making a brochure
[08:29am] bobert_: Exactly, and also chip makers being able to demonstrate their prototyping systems
[08:29am] yippi_: sure, perhaps provide sponsors a certain number of speaker or demo slots in the schedule
[08:30am] bobert_: Yes, maybe even special space in a lab or something
[08:30am] yippi_: we could have a special 1/2 day for these sorts of things.
[08:30am] yippi_: or something
[08:30am] txenoo: i don't know if it has sense to sell "conference slots"
[08:30am] yippi_: anything that helps us to raise funds is worth considering
[08:31am] bobert_: Yes, I think speaker slots shouldn't be "up for auction". But I see that in previous years, sponsors got tables in a special area.
[08:32am] juanjo: we can think about some space for permanent demos, leaving some time in the agenda for people to visit them, but I personally don't like too much the idea of giving slots for talks in exchange of money.. maybe something like what was done this year in DS is ok: a single slot for all the sponsors to give a lightning talk about how their work is related to GNOME
[08:33am] yippi_: i don't think we should give slots for talks
[08:33am] bobert_: At the Ottawa Linux Symposium, there are usually speakers from various sponsors, but those are also selected based on their technical merit, not because their employers gave money.
[08:33am] txenoo: i agree on considering ways to provide value to the sponsors, but i would prefer give the program committee freedom to build the program in the benefit of the community.
[08:34am] yippi_: sure, the committee has the freedom. the thing is that we need to decide what to put in the brochure rather quickly.
[08:34am] juanjo: yippi_, you just said "perhaps provide sponsors a certain number of speaker or demo slots in the schedule", that's why I was saying that
[08:34am] yippi_: sure, but I didn't mean the "talks"
[08:34am] juanjo: yippi_, ok
[08:34am] yippi_: there could be a special time where there are special slots for sponsors
[08:35am] teuf: keynotes have been selected separately from the main schedule the year I was involved
[08:35am] yippi_: where it is clear to everyone that these talks were not picked based on merit. like having a 1/2 for sponsors to demo stuff.
[08:35am] teuf: so some "sponsor slots" could be handled this way too
[08:35am] yippi_: it is something we can consider, i am not saying we should do it.
[08:35am] fid_jose: i agree with juanjo here, the idea of a single slot in which sponsors have a lighting talk, i think it worked well this year on desktop summit
[08:36am] bobert_: It sounds like we have some pretty good brainstorming going on around this
[08:36am] txenoo: ok, so tasks for local team is to prepare the first draft of the sponsors brochure
[08:36am] yippi_: yes, it probably would be good to get some of these brainstorming ideas discussed on threads on the mailing list.
[08:37am] bobert_: I'll summarize the ideas and put out an email later today
[08:37am] yippi_: working on a brouchure probably requires a separate thread
[08:37am] bobert_: I'd also be happy to work with the local team on the brochure when you're in a good place for that
[08:38am] bobert_: We're quite a bit over time, so let's wrap up. Does anybody have a problem with moving the meeting time by two hours, to 16:00 UTC, for future meetings?
[08:38am] txenoo: and create a new list of possible targets for sponsorship would be good
[08:39am] bobert_: txenoo: I'm already working on a spreadsheet
[08:39am] juanjo: I am ok with 16:00 UTC
[08:39am] txenoo: For me starting at 16:00 UTC is ok.
[08:40am] bobert_: Okay, good. Since there are no objections, the next meeting will be on 10 October, at 16:00 UTC.
[08:40am] fid_jose: yes, i think i'll be better 16:00 utc
[08:41am] bobert_: Excellent.
[08:41am] juanjo: great, thanks a lot
[08:41am] bobert_: Let's close the meeting, then. I will send out email with a summary, and will post the chat transcript on the GNOME web site.
[08:41am] txenoo: thanks, we will continue working in the mailing lists
[08:43am] yippi_: thanks, great meeting
[08:43am] yippi_: by the way the gnome foundation is planning to do a press release without the dates soon
[08:44am] yippi_: we will do a follow up announcement of the dates
[08:45am] txenoo: ok, we expect your feedback about this important decision