Meeting Summary

• Meeting started by Piñeiro at 16:05:45 CET.
• Meeting ended at 17:05:34 CET.
• Participants (Lines Said):
  • Joanie - joanie (102)
  • Piñeiro - API (88)
  • Joseph - clown (60)
  • Juanjo - jjmarin (27)
  • Mike - mgorse (8)
  • Heidi - heidi (1)

• Log

Collective response to "What I am extremely missing in Gnome 3"

• There is a list of missing features in GNOME 3 that were in GNOME 2.

• This list was given in an email on the gnome-a11y list.

• ACTION: Joseph will take the "missing in GNOME 3" email and summarize the list of items on a wiki page.
• ACTION: Joanie will create the new 3.6 stump pages during this meeting.
• ACTION: After making the list, Joseph will add responses in terms of gs-mag, where they are appropriate.
• ACTION: Juanjo will add to the wiki the gnome 2 options that Detlef mentions.

GNOME 3.6

• Screen Reader has been added as an item in the GNOME Shell menu.
• Question: Can we get a keyboard shortcut for users to enable screen reader support in GDM?
• Much work as been done on enabling accessibility by default. Yay!
• Question: What is the current status?
• Question: What's going to happen with respect to Gecko since Gecko is migrating from Gtk+ 2 to Gtk+ 3?
• Bastien has suggested that there is still much work we need to do on at-spi2-atk.
• Question: Should we be having a conversation with him?
• On a positive note, Orca is Python 3 now. Accerciser will be soon as Joanie has done all the patches.
• Question: How does this impact JHBuild?
• Question: Should we have a build-time flag for pyatspi2?
• Joanie is pleased at the progress being made thusfar in the cycle but worries that if we don't address the above concerns, we may get bitten in the butt.
• About the shortcut, one can set just with gsettings: gsettings set 'org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.media-keys' screenreader '
• We need to check if that works for gdm (is gdm a normal user?)

• LINK: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=627699

• ACTION: API send a mail to bastien to know 1. if he has specific features for the bridge 2. if he plans to work on that.
• ACTION: mgorse will ping jjardon / ask how best to get pyatspi to build against Python 3 in jhbuild
• ACTION: Joanie will ping David Bolter regarding a11y always on and the gecko migration to gtk3

GUADEC BoF proposed

• Joanie worked on a draft with Piñeiro and Juanjo and submitted it as a BoF.
• Joanie suspects it will be accepted.
• Anyone coming to GUADEC should therefore plan on participating.
• Joanie requested the 30th as that will make it possible for Andre Klapper to join us.

Marketing and Fundraising

• The a11y FoG counter is up and running again. This week is US$17,152, so that means US$800 more than two weeks ago.
• Juanjo don't have any response about the OFL FLOSS booth, I think we don't have other associations interested yet.
• Javi posted about the a11y FoG.

Miscellaneous Time

• (Nothing logged)

Action Items

New

• Joanie:
  • create the new 3.6 stump pages during this meeting.
  • ping David Bolter regarding a11y always on and the gecko migration to gtk3.
• Joseph:
  • take the "missing in GNOME 3" email and summarize the list of items on a wiki page.
  • add responses in terms of gs-mag, where they are appropriate.
• Juanjo:
  • add to the wiki the gnome 2 options that Detlef mentions.
• Mike:
  • ping jjardon / ask how best to get pyatspi to build against Python 3 in jhbuild
• Piñeiro:
  • send a mail to bastien to know 1. if he has specific features for the bridge 2. if he plans to work on that.

Ongoing / Rolled-Over

• Team members:

  • Look over Juanjo's draft about how to improve accessibility by promoting a11y to developers and designers.

• Brian:
  • Send a mail summarizing his proposal regarding a testing-centered design.
  • Announce his Mago tests on the gnome-accessibility-devel list, and also create a README and INSTALL.
• Joanie
  • update the 3.4 team planning pages for 3.6
  • do a full evaluation of the accessibility breakage in Evolution 3.4 and file bugs accordingly.
• Joseph:
  • Joseph to email Jan and Peter about statistics regarding users with disabilities.

  • Explore the JavaScript Atspi import further to see how much is available.

• Juanjo:
  • Contact Bryen about the OLF a11y booth.
• Mike:
  • Add the keyword 'accessibility' to gnome core module bugs he's filed (e.g. evolution and nautilus) which are still open.
  • File a bug regarding GAIL treeview children / children-changed signals, attach a patch, and call for testers.
  • Modify libatspi to fill in the index when possible (ie, when it has the child cached, which it will not for trees with MANAGES_DESCENDANTS for instance)
• Piñeiro:

  • Update the AtkObject:children-changed documentation, as this could be also used on ATK implementors.